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Talk:Generation III: Criticized too often?

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By far the biggest source of bitterness I felt at both R/S/E and D/P/Pt was the inability to revisit the areas from the previous games. They've built up a fairly sizable world by now and it's a damn shame to keep it only accessible in remakes. G/S/C was the only time they got this right, and that's the reason I hold it in such high regard. --Toksyuryel 11:25, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

I really think it depends on which online communities you belong to. In my experience, it seems that many current fans consider the third generation the best, if not second-best to the fourth. It's the second generation that seems to get the most hate from what I've personally seen, for reasons you mentioned such as feeling "cramped" or having a comparatively simplistic plot, or lack of environmental variation (none of which I personally find fault in, but that's my opinion of course). I find it safe to say the majority of pokémon players these days were introduced to the franchise via 3rd gen, and as such, hold it in high regard. Of course, these are just my personal observations ;) RHetoRic 12:20, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

The reason I hate playing Ruby is the surfing. It seems that half the overworld is comprised of water routes. And they simply aren't fun because it limits the kind of Pokemon that I use for a massive section of the game. Tercotta 12:59, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree that one of my biggest gripes with R/S/E was the abundance of water routes - as a primary user of fire Pokemon, it posed a bit of an issue. However, it does make sense in the context of the games. As the two villainous teams are trying to either increase the size of the land or the size of the seas, having the region be closer to 50/50 land v water makes some sense. That's one of the things I liked about R/S/E. The story, despite still being week, felt a great deal stronger than that of G/S/C. The fact that the villanous teams attempted to do something other than steal Pokemon strengthened the story and made them seem much more of a treat than Team Rocket ever was.--Cynda09 15:44, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Ruby was the first game I ever bought. As an eleven year-old, I instantly became engrossed, so, although my opinion on the merits of Generation III may be less valid because of a lack of yardstick (at that time at least), those games must have had some good qualities or I wouldn't have played them as much as I did! And as for the huge amount of surfing and large proportion of water Pokémon, my opinion is that Hoenn is a watery region, just as Sinnoh is dominated by Mt Coronet, and I think this dynamic works well. Plus I really like water Pokémon. -- Zizzimay 18:09, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it's criticized too much. It may have been a revolution, but it was a harsh one. The lack of connectivity with the earlier generations was crippling. In the first two games, all you needed was a friend to trade you a couple extras and you could complete the Pokedex. Then in generation two you needed four, which was tolerable as long as you and your friend still had your first games, but completing the 'dex was getting a lot harder. When Ruby and Sapphire came around with their lack of connectivity to the other games, it was actually impossible. When this news came out I didn't even bother buying the games and in fact dropped out of the community until Platinum. Battle enhancements alone don't make a Pokemon game - it's a game about trading, and trading died in generation III. I'd love to see a remake of Hoenn that addresses all of this, but until that happens, it's pretty justified not liking the games. Saiar 18:58, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

I see a slight difference in where you claim is good and bad... while the pokemon aren't as good, it's not because of a lack of the first 251, because I didn't know any of the gen III pokemon until after I got to know the generation IV pokemon, as I completely skipped generation III. Also, the region's layout is awful to alot of people I know. The wide open part is a major pain, and it makes me want to switch to my ds versions. To be honest, I got so bored I stopped playing for a month and a half right in front of victory road.ShoutingRyan 19:09, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

The Pokemon were great! I loved the Gen III games. I could never get bored with them. I play them all the time (even tough I have got Heartgold which is, by the way, awesome!) They should remake them, add some Sinnoh pokemon, maybe even some gen V? I don't really mind, but in their defense they are awesome. Pokemon Sapphire all the way! Kingdonfin

I do personally prefer Silver to the Generation III games, but that's not to say that there's anything wrong with them. They have amazing graphics and music, and utlise some ingenious ideas (cable cars, a volcano, a desert, Contests, you name it!) which had not been seen in Pokémon before. A few of the new Pokémon designs may be a little lacking (I'm looking at you Claydol), but there's plenty of brilliant designs in there too; Latios, Latias and Groudon in particular are among my all-time favourites. Hoenn is a tropical region, so the Pokémon are bound to be more exotic! Lack of connectivity with older games is a bit of a shame (I would have liked to have been able to see my Typhlosion in action on Ruby!) but as stated in the article, it wouldn't have been possible with all the new mechanics. While not perfect, Ruby and Sapphire (and the other Generation III games which followed) are very well-designed and enjoyable games, and are certainly not worthy of the amount of critisism they receive. Taromon777 20:59, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Gen III....

I like Gen. III personally, since it was the only Generation I can remember in it's entirety (when I played Gen. I and II I don't remember much since I was younger back then) and I personally hope for a remake ^^ Stupid critics >.<--Darknesslover5000 23:48, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Nice.

I totally agree with you. I actually thought about something like this the other day, but you beat me :P CuboneKing 02:46, 17 April 2010 (UTC)